Naperville Invests In Green Nonsense

UPDATE :::

I have been told that the Congresswomen asked for and received a $4,000,000 grant for the first  year of operation and that it will cost $3,800,000 for the second year of operation.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20111122/news/711229925

Once the system is inspected on Dec. 14 and activated, a “gasifier” will heat yard and brush waste in an oxygen-free environment and convert it into a gas. That gas can then be processed through a generator set to produce electricity or be converted to ethanol using a process being developed at Argonne. The gasifier also produces hydrogen gas, which can be used as a fuel in itself.

The system produces about 15 kilowatts of electric power, enough to run about 12 suburban homes. Some of this power is used to keep the system operational. The remainder can be used as electricity for plug-in hybrid vehicles, or it can be supplied back to the Naperville grid.

Ok, it says that 15 kilowatts can run about 12 homes.

I live in a 900 square foot home and it has gas heating,  a gas stove and a gas water heater.

My main electrical users are: refrigerator, lighting, microwave and television.

For the past two years, I have averaged just under 13 kwh per day!!!

So when they say that 15 kw can “run about 12 homes”, what does that really mean?

“Everything runs cleaner off electricity, hydrogen or ethanol,” said Councilman Robert Fieseler, adding that “if a unit like this takes off, it’s a farm-scale operation for other municipalities as well. It means jobs.”

Everything runs cleaner?? So what?? Are you factoring in the amount of fuel used to get the waste to the plant??

The amount of pollution being saved would be almost negligible and is NOT the reason to have these wasteful and useless green fantasies (paid for by the taxpayers)

“if a unit like this takes off…….. it means jobs”

BWAHAHAHA !!

If I had a nickle for every time that was said by a Greenie, I’d be rich !!!

“We believe the long-term goal for Packer Engineering, with the success of this system, is to generate jobs. They’ll be able to create jobs for the manufacturing of the systems and the support and the service as they sell them all over the world,” Miller said. “So it’s a great opportunity to eliminate yard waste and create jobs of all types.”

YAWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What I notice missing from this story is how much the taxpayers are taking it in the shorts for.

UPDATE :

I did a little more searching and found this:

http://www.naperville.il.us/greenfuelsdepot.aspx#Introduction

Who is paying for the project?
Primary funding comes from the U.S. Department of Energy through a Congressionally Directed Project at the request of U.S. Rep. Judy Biggert (IL 13th). Packer Engineering and the City of Naperville are also providing a modest amount of non-cash contributions to the overall project. These non-cash contributions include the temporary use of land and buildings for the project, plus time and effort on the part of salaried employees.

Yep !!!

Being paid for by PORK  SPENDING!

I can almost declare that this project is not economically feasible.

The City of Naperville is providing a “modest” amount……. on the part of salaried employees.

Without a dollar amount being provided,  “modest” is rather subjective.

And of course, here is the punchline to the joke:

What kind of gases will be released by the Green Fuels Depot?


Only water vapor and carbon dioxide are released to the atmosphere. The water vapor may appear white on cold days. The white vapor is not smoke, it is what comes out of a tea kettle. The carbon dioxide (chemical formula CO2) is colorless, just as the exhaust of your automobile is colorless if running properly. Because plants grow by absorbing carbon dioxide, the CO2 released by the Green Fuels Depot merely replaces it in the atmosphere, where growing plants can absorb it again. This is the natural carbon cycle of our atmosphere.

I am not going to even try to explain how funny that statement is !!!!

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GOOGLE FAIL !!!!!

11/2007:

http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/google-renewable-energy-47112801

Google aims to make electricity derived from the wind and sun and other renewable sources of energy cheaper than burning coal, and the Web search giant has pledged hundreds of millions of dollars toward the effort, including tens of millions in 2008. It didn’t release specific figures, but it did set the goal of producing enough electricity to power San Francisco in “years not decades.”

The initiative will focus first on solar thermal power, wind power and geothermal systems.

Depending on how fast Google spends its money, its investment could rival the federal government’s investment in renewable energy. A Government Accountability Office report found that Department of Energy spending on research and development of biomass, wind and solar energy sources totaled just $65 million in 2006. (Since this was posted this morning, the folks over at reddit have identified other Department of Energy budget documents that make the GAO estimate seem far too low, with $1.16 billion being appropriated for energy efficiency and renewable energy in 2006, and $1.24 billion requested for 2008.)

11/2011:

http://news.yahoo.com/google-quits-plans-cheap-renewable-energy-003306393.html

Google Inc has abandoned an ambitious project to make renewable energy cheaper than coal, the latest target of Chief Executive Larry Page’s moves to focus the Internet giant on fewer efforts.

Google said on Tuesday that it was pulling the plug on seven projects, including Renewable Energy Cheaper than Coal as well as a Wikipedia-like online encyclopedia service known as Knol.

Google began making investments and doing research into technology to drive down the price of renewable energy in 2007, with a particular focus on solar power technology.

In 2009, the company’s so-called Green Energy Czar, Bill Weihl, told Reuters that he expected to demonstrate within a few years working technology that could produce renewable energy at a cheaper price than coal.

“It is even odds, more or less,” Weihl said at the time. “In three years, we could have multiple megawatts of plants out there.”

FAIL !!!!!!!!!

I for one  am very glad that Google was NOT able to defy the laws of Nature and Physics.(that would be doing evil)

Greenies need to finally understand that converting wind, bio mass or the sun into useable energy for HUMANS cannot be done cheaper and more efficiently then burning coal !!!!!